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Pick a photo that fits what you want to say, and a question to talk about appears. For the start of a conversation, or when it falls silent.
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A guide to making a digital tool together with clients, care workers and the organisation. In ten steps: writing down the question, inviting people, making something simple to talk about, testing and then building.
Designing together means that you make a digital tool with the people it is about. These are your clients, the care workers who work with it and the organisation that pays for it. From the start, they help decide what the problem is and what helps.
Another word for this is co-creation. What exactly it is and what it isn’t, you can read in Co-creation in care and support.
Clients know how their question is tied to the rest of their life, while a maker from outside often sees only one piece. With this knowledge from lived experience, you can describe a problem more concretely.
The result doesn’t have to be an app. It can also be a website, a game, a training course or a card on paper. Sometimes a regular phone appointment works better than something new.
Many people find digital care hard to use. It becomes simpler and easier to understand when makers work with people who are less digitally skilled from the start. That is why some makers mainly test their app with this group: if the app works for them, it also works for many others.
Designing together can also save money and time. If you test early, you see in time, for example, that setting up a tool is too complicated, and the design can still be improved without high costs. Makers who see how someone with a disability uses their work often become more motivated as a result.
Below is an order in ten steps. You can use it if your team makes something itself, and also if you have something made by someone else. The steps sometimes overlap.
Start with the question. Write down in one sentence what is going wrong now, seen through your client’s eyes. For example: “I miss appointments with the neighbourhood team because I can no longer keep track of the letters.” Don’t write: “We need an app.” The problem behind the question doesn’t come up by itself, so ask more questions. For example, ask how someone remembers appointments now, with a calendar on the fridge or an alarm on their phone.
Invite different people. Ask clients, colleagues and someone who makes decisions, such as a team leader. Also ask people who are often left out, such as older people and people who find reading hard. Don’t assume that what one person says applies to a whole group.
If you involve the decision-makers too late, things can still get stuck later on. Tell each group what it brings them: for care workers it is about convenience and fewer mistakes, for managers about time and money, for clients about their quality of life.
Also invite someone who knows your client well, such as a support worker or informal carer. A reaction that you read as a sign that something is wrong can, in some people, also be joy, and someone who knows the person knows that. Set up the conversation so that both your client and the support worker can contribute.
Make taking part easy. Invite people personally, in plain language, at a place they know. Keep questions short, and make sure people can also take part by talking instead of writing.
Work with images instead of a lot of text, for example with photos. Say beforehand that everyone is free to stop whenever they want. Also give a suitable payment, and catch up informally, for example over lunch. For people with a mild intellectual disability, Movisie (a Dutch knowledge centre for social issues) has simple activities.
Make something simple straight away, and call it a trial version. A sketch on paper, a story about an ordinary day, or a map of who does what. The more tangible it is, the better people can react. If people think something is finished, they start judging it and think along less. So say that it is a first version to try out (a prototype), and ask: “What should be different here?”
You can also build up a made-up person together with the group, with characteristics and experiences from that group. This is called a persona.
Let people do something. Give a task, such as: “Show how you would find your next appointment here.” Watch where someone gets stuck and ask more questions. Also let people show what already works well in other apps and where they get stuck.
Adjust the design and test again, with other people. One person wants a bigger button, the next finds that button too big. So ask more often and ask different people, so you can see what is a pattern. In between, check whether you are still working towards your client’s goal, and not only the organisation’s.
At the start, reactions are mainly about how easy something is and how it looks. Later, it is about what it achieves. So agree in good time how you will see later whether the tool helps.
How many people should I talk to? There is no fixed number. Most projects have little time and money, and then you can’t ask a great many different people. In that case, choose people who are as different from each other as possible, and ask in more rounds, as in step 8.
Can I give participants a payment? Yes, a suitable payment is recommended. If someone receives benefits, be careful. For volunteers, an expenses allowance can affect their benefits. This can also be the case with a payment for giving input. So ask the person to check first with the organisation that pays their benefits, and ask within your organisation how you arrange this.
We are buying a tool instead of having one made. Does this still work? Partly. You no longer help decide how it looks. But you can decide together what you need, as in step 1, and test it together before you choose. This testing is also recommended for digital care from other makers that your organisation uses. You can read how to choose after that in Choosing a digital tool for your client.
Conversation cards
Pick a photo that fits what you want to say, and a question to talk about appears. For the start of a conversation, or when it falls silent.
Card maker
Make a clear card for your client's appointment, with pictures and large print. Print it and hand it over.
Review
At the end of a conversation, say how it was for you. You pick a face for four sentences, and then you look at the answers together.
Text check
Check whether your Dutch text is easy to read. See long sentences and difficult words, with a simpler word next to them.
Co-creation means making something together: you develop something with the people who will use it. Clients, experts by experience and care professionals then do not just share their ideas, they also help decide. This piece explains what it is, when to use it and what to look out for.
Digital inclusion means that everyone can take part now that more and more things happen online. That does not happen by itself. As a care professional or organisation, you can ask about it, make warm referrals, keep a route without a screen open, and test your own tools together with clients.
An estimated 1.1 million people in the Netherlands have an lvb (in Dutch: licht verstandelijke beperking; a mild intellectual disability). The internet can give them more control over their own lives, but it is also often hard for them. A usable tool is clear, works with pictures, needs few steps and has an alternative without a screen. Much of this comes from one small study from 2022.
Send us a message if you have an idea, are missing something or would like to try a tool with your team. Tell us in a few sentences what it is about. We read everything, and it commits you to nothing.